!? The “Two Patricks” (1986 to present day)
From Cookstown, Northern Ireland,
Patrick O'Kane and Patrick Rushe.
STATUS- NO CHURCH DECISION YET, but OBVIOUSLY FAKE: few of their 'messages' contain heretical teachings and other details that are doctrinal errors and / or contradict the Bible. Any visionary that contradicts the Bible or Catholic Church teachings are fakes.
Also, the visions themselves demand funding in order for mankind to show its 'free will' (?!)-demands for money from a vision is one of the signs the Church use to spot a fake mystic.
Here
are a few examples:
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October
4, 2004 - “Human thinking dies with the body but faith
carries on infinitely.”
This
statement is HERETICAL– St. Paul taught that charity is greater
than hope or faith, because faith and hope will be done away with
eventually- so faith is NOT infinte, and therefore cannot 'carry on infintely'.
St. John Chrysostom says this is the case because when we die and go to Heaven we receive what we have had faith in and hoped for, we will see God and all things clearly, so the gift of the virtue of faith will come to an end as we will finally 'see' and no longer have to have faith in the unseen. Hope will also be no more as we will see God face to face and at last know Him clearly, faith in the 'unseen' will no longer be needed, nor the gift of tongues or knowledge, and no longer will hope as we will have attained the end of our hope in attaining eternal salvation. We will no longer have to hope for heaven as we will be there. Only charity, eternal love, will exist forever in Heaven, which is why it is greatest of all the three.
St. John Chrysostom says this is the case because when we die and go to Heaven we receive what we have had faith in and hoped for, we will see God and all things clearly, so the gift of the virtue of faith will come to an end as we will finally 'see' and no longer have to have faith in the unseen. Hope will also be no more as we will see God face to face and at last know Him clearly, faith in the 'unseen' will no longer be needed, nor the gift of tongues or knowledge, and no longer will hope as we will have attained the end of our hope in attaining eternal salvation. We will no longer have to hope for heaven as we will be there. Only charity, eternal love, will exist forever in Heaven, which is why it is greatest of all the three.
St. Paul
(with notes): (1 Cor: 13, 8-10) “Charity never falleth away:
whether prophecies shall be made void, or tongues shall cease, or
knowledge shall be destroyed. For we know in part, and we prophesy in
part. (i.e through faith and hope). But when that which is perfect
is come, (eternal salvation) that which is in part shall be done
away. (i.e faith and hope will be no more as we will no longer need
them).”
So, this
statement from the 'Two Patricks' that faith carries on forever after
death is heretical and points them out as fakes.
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June 10, 2005 - 'throw out everything you think you know about the antichrist'
We get a "message" from Christ saying: "I tell you as I have told you before, throw away all that you think you know about the antichrist and rethink your thoughts without self"
This is sneaky - we have been taught by St. John the Apostle, St. Paul, and the Fathers of the Church on how to recognise the Antichrist and his precursors, now we're being told to 'throw away everything we think we know' and to rethink it because we are being "selfish" if we don't.
Sorry, but one of the best ways to detect a fake mystic is their so called prophecies about the arrival and reign of Antichrist - they usually get it terribly wrong - so if we actually 'throw away' everything we know about how to recognise him, then how easy it is to put out false ideas of the Antichrist in fake visions!
Satan loves to accuse us of things we are NOT guilty of too, see how we are accused of being 'selfish' if we don't 'throw out' what we know about the Antichrist. No, we are obedient and prudent if we listen to the Church's teaching on the Antichrist, we won't be led astray by false mystics when we do.
Below is a very good example of a false message of the Antichrist and his reign....
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May 11, 2005 that Pope Benedict XVI was the Antichrist and a pope 'not for Christ'
That is wrong on so many levels.
First of all, a pope cannot and never will be The Antichrist - the gates of Hell will have prevailed over the Church if that were the case. Yes, we can have anti-popes, we have had them before, but a Pope, even an anti-pope cannot be "The" Antichrist.
The Church Fathers and Doctors have taught that the Antichrist will set up his seat in or near Jerusalem and will preside over the newly built Temple, which makes sense. If the Antichrist were to be seen in any way connected to the Catholic Church, he certainly would not be able to fool the Jews whom he will set out to win over as he will put himself forward to be the Messiah they have waited for.
Also, the prophecies here on the Prophecy Timeline show that yes, Pope Benedict XVI is indeed a valid pope - the old man with white hair with the letter 'B' in his name and who shares a name with St. Pius X - (Joseph). (Click here to see the timeline.)
June 10, 2005 - 'throw out everything you think you know about the antichrist'
We get a "message" from Christ saying: "I tell you as I have told you before, throw away all that you think you know about the antichrist and rethink your thoughts without self"
This is sneaky - we have been taught by St. John the Apostle, St. Paul, and the Fathers of the Church on how to recognise the Antichrist and his precursors, now we're being told to 'throw away everything we think we know' and to rethink it because we are being "selfish" if we don't.
Sorry, but one of the best ways to detect a fake mystic is their so called prophecies about the arrival and reign of Antichrist - they usually get it terribly wrong - so if we actually 'throw away' everything we know about how to recognise him, then how easy it is to put out false ideas of the Antichrist in fake visions!
Satan loves to accuse us of things we are NOT guilty of too, see how we are accused of being 'selfish' if we don't 'throw out' what we know about the Antichrist. No, we are obedient and prudent if we listen to the Church's teaching on the Antichrist, we won't be led astray by false mystics when we do.
Below is a very good example of a false message of the Antichrist and his reign....
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May 11, 2005 that Pope Benedict XVI was the Antichrist and a pope 'not for Christ'
That is wrong on so many levels.
First of all, a pope cannot and never will be The Antichrist - the gates of Hell will have prevailed over the Church if that were the case. Yes, we can have anti-popes, we have had them before, but a Pope, even an anti-pope cannot be "The" Antichrist.
The Church Fathers and Doctors have taught that the Antichrist will set up his seat in or near Jerusalem and will preside over the newly built Temple, which makes sense. If the Antichrist were to be seen in any way connected to the Catholic Church, he certainly would not be able to fool the Jews whom he will set out to win over as he will put himself forward to be the Messiah they have waited for.
Also, the prophecies here on the Prophecy Timeline show that yes, Pope Benedict XVI is indeed a valid pope - the old man with white hair with the letter 'B' in his name and who shares a name with St. Pius X - (Joseph). (Click here to see the timeline.)
Also, St. Robert Bellarmine pointed out a pope would be highly unlikely to the Antichrist as according to the Scriptures that Son of Perdition will cause the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass to cease being offered in public in the world, and I cannot imagine how Pope Benedict, who has reaffirmed and protected our Catholic right to have the Traditional Latin Mass of the ages in accordance with St. Pius V's decree, could ever be The Antichrist! Talk about Christ not knowing what was going to happen = false prophecy.
As a prophecy, the Two Patricks also got it wrong as another pope came after Benedict XVI, and so Benedict was shoved aside into retirement, "The" Antichrist is to be defeated by the Second Coming of Christ at the end of time according to St. Paul, and, defintely we did not have the Second Coming. So, that was an odd defeat of the "Antichrist" contrary to the Bible.
No wonder the fake messages wanted people to 'throw out' everything they thought they knew of the Antichrist, so they would believe the nonsense spouted about Pope Benedict.
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December 25,
1982 - Our Lady Speaks, “Excuse me for this, but you must
realise that Satan exists.”
What? Our
Lady asking to be 'excused' for having to say that Satan is real?
She is literally giving an apology as if she was afraid to offend
anyone by telling the truth!
Our Lady
then supposedly completes her message warning people about Satan's
century, ect., but the idea that the Mother of God has to apologise
or feel 'sorry' she has to tell people Satan exists sounds very fake
– she did not apologise to the children of Fatima for showing them
Hell and frightening them with that vision. Heaven does not
apologise where Truth and the salvation of souls are concerned –
Our Lady needs us to wake up, and certainly would not apologise for
having to remind the world that Satan is real.
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March 22,
2019 – contradictory statements regarding technology and the
benefit of mankind.
Jesus:
“Enough time has Lucifer had to sift mankind; this is the time that
he asked for to test mankind like gold in the fire. Now is My Time
when I will destroy all that has been given to take mankind from
Me. (i.e this means according to the vision that technology is inspired by Satan if it has been given to take mankind away from God). You think that your
technology is good but what I see are machines of death and
destruction all over this earth. You have been blinded by
Lucifer. You have been tested and found wanting; if you had taken
the technology and used it to the good, you would be living in a
world with no hunger, no famine, no war, no sickness, a world where
My Light would shine; a world of peace and Love but, you have
allowed evil desires to control you and so you live in a world of
death and destruction.”
Okay –
this sounds good and correct at first, but let's take a closer look.
Our Lord says if we had taken the technology (inspired by Satan!) and
used it for good, we would have ended hunger, famine, war, and
sickness – Our Lord says we would have NONE of these things, which
goes against His own words in the Bible. “The poor you have always
with you.” (Matt. 26: 11)
Our Lord
said we would always have the poor with us, ALWAYS, which means until
the end of time, not to mention technology cannot do away with the
consequences of Original Sin, so that means poverty, and all the
other sufferings of humanity cannot be done away with entirely.
There will always be sickness and suffering of some kind on earth
until the Last Day thanks to Original Sin, even during the Age of
Peace.
If the
message had said we could have greatly reduced hunger, sickness,
poverty like never before, that would have been believable, but to
say we would have had NONE of these things if we used our (satanic!)
technology properly contradicts the Bible, is in
fact way too naive and obviously false.
Also, this
'message' of us being able to end all suffering on earth with
technology (which is inspired by Satan according to the vision)
sounds like mankind could have brought about its own heavenly
paradise on earth by its own efforts without the grace of the the Church and sounds like a Masonic - Deist plan of the world! We know mankind cannot bring about paradise on earth, it will not even be able to bring about the Age of Peace and the restoration of the Church without God's miraculous help.
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The visions themselves ask for funding:
Message of June 26, . 2019: "Jesus" - "I need you help to fund My Work within My Houses, this is mankind showing Me that they want these Refuges of Truth in their free will."
Real meaning / translation: "I need you to get Me money, then I, God, will know mankind's free will is union with Mine regarding these prayer houses."
Seriously?
When the VISIONS themselves ask for money, or VISIONARIES use 'visions' to ask for money or become a moneymaking racket, it is a fake. It is one of the conditions the Church looks out for to spot a fake mystic. See the conditions the Church uses to verify and approve an authentic apparition, click here.
The Two Patricks have actually set up a registered ECUMENCIAL charity 'open to all' in Northern Ireland (# NIC 101422) and have brought in close to half a million pounds UK.
Running the ministries as an 'ecumencial operation' open to all is one way fake visionaries keep their operations out of the authority of the Catholic Church - the fake prophet Sweeny Kyle of 'Holy Love Ministires' of Ohio also does this too. (See more about her heretical operations, click here.)
Note, the prayer area of the is open for ALL RELIGIONS:
"We provide a place of Prayer and retreat to all peoples of all nationality, race, religious or political affiliation. Our main work is primarily in the Cookstown area but we also seek to provide these services throughout Ireland, UK, Europe and rest of the world. (...) We have a weekly Prayer Meeting offering people the opportunity to express their faith through prayer and song." etc.
Also, one of the charity's classifications is: "The advancement of religion".
Really? Whose since it is open to all religions?
The charity is listed on the top of the 'Two Patricks' main website in additon to a lot of donation buttons. They say it also feeds the poor, etc, but when their visions have doctrinal errors in them, and the visions demand a show of 'free will' be getting them money, and they have it registered as an 'ecumenical ministry or charity' to keep out from the jurisdiction of the Catholic Church, you cannot help but question how genuine is this?
Even if the "Two Patricks" meant well and made up the visions to bring in money to build prayer houses and help the poor - the END DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS. Making up heavenly visions is living a lie, and we know who the Father of Lies is.
NOTE: according to the Council of Chalcedon (451 AD) - "Religious
and laity who run monasteries, martyrs' shrines or almshouses who do
not obey the local bishop's authority." are commiting an offence that is
EXCOMMUNICABLE. (Subject to Excommunication.)
This is why submitting to the local bishop's authority is one of the key points the Church examines in determining when a visionary is real or not.
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Lastest fakery- March 13, 2020 - latest message about the Coronavirus pandemic also shows them to be a fake - Christ doesn't know basic science?
I can see this message is not going to age well.
Jesus is allegidly mad that the bishops have closed churches and suspended public Masses over something He says is "an insignificant illness that is no worse than a common cold'.
Sorry, but the Coronoavirus COVID-19 is not a common cold - the basic flu is worse than a common cold, so this new virus never seen before which is related to SARS and spreads rapidly and can kill those with underlying health problems, especially the elderly, as it causes acute pnumonia and ARDS, which if you do survive, can leave survivors with a 20% to 30% reduced lung capacity is not the common flu and so definitely worse than a common cold.
At the moment I type this, it may not have caused a high death ratio when compared with the Spanish flu of the last turn of the century, but it is basically worse than the common cold, especially if and when it triggers a 'cytokine storm' of the immune system. Surely, Christ would know this?
Take it from someone who actually had SARS in 2003 - that was no joke. It was excruciating, and, at one point I didn't care if I died, that was how bad the pain and fever was. It took ages to get back on my feet too, I was so weak for weeks afterwards. Maybe COVID-19 is not that bad yet, but, to those whom it affects terribly, the symptoms are brutal too, I've seen accounts where people said it's like getting hit with ton of bricks and are gapsing for every breath, and I believe them.
Also, this new disease is certainly not 'insignificant' when Italy is having to use a church as an emergency morgue and army truck convoys are called in to carry away and cremate the dead (March 19, 2020) as the cemeteries are filling up, London is setting up emergency moruges as the death toll is suddenly jumping beyond what they can handle, this is definitely worse the common cold.
Then, the vision of Christ threatens those pastors / bishops with utter rejection who closed the churches as a result of the pandemic?
" Look and see how you reject Me and My Power. I have told you, if you reject Me before men I will reject you before My Father in Heaven. I tell you the Truth, I will send a plague to root out the deceivers and they will be shown in their true light. You who refuse to give Me to My people, I will spit you out and you shall endure the full force of My Justice. You have rejected Me and withheld Me from My people when they were in need of encouragement and the show of your faith in Me. You have shown your cowardliness and are not worthy of calling yourselves servants of Mine."
Sorry but closing the churches is not a rejection of God's power or a sin in this instance. Churches were closed duing the Spanish Flu pandemic, and, it has happened before in plague times centuries past. Even the Holy Sepulchre Church in Jeruslaem was once closed in the 13th century due to the Black Plague.
The Church has taught, as seen in the excellent pre-Vatican II chatechism of Spirago and Clarke from the 1890s that 1) we are permitted to stay home if we have a delicate health condition and we would be in danger of falling ill if we went to Mass 2) It is a sin to purposely endanger our life or the life of another person 2) the bishops of the Church have the authority to despense with the obligations of following the precepts of the Church, and that includes deciding when to suspend the obligation to hear Mass on Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation.
Since we don't know who would be more vulenerable to the disease and as it is so easy to spread, as people can be supercarriers of this thing, it's best just to suffer the lockdown for now, without panicking of course so we don't spread this to someone it would kill. We can stop this thing faster by obeying the lockdowns.
True, none of us like to see the churches closed, it does look a bit cowardly, but at the same time, it is also an ACT OF CHARITY to keep a disease from spreading to the vulunerable of society, and we know a lot more about how diseases spread now and are required to work with the knowledge we have gained - the Church has the authority to suspend public Masses and dispense with the obligation to hear Mass in times like this.
And, acts of charity may be done on the Sabbath - we can pull our donkies out of a pit on the Sabbath, or, miss Mass and go work and bring in the harvest crops if threatened by a destructive storm and we are given the dispensation to do so. Christ gave His Church the authority to suspend the obligation - God made the Sabbath for man, not man for the Sabbath.
God would not threaten His pastors with utter rejection for having to decide this as He gave His Church authority to do so.
When visions go against the teaching of the Church and use terror tactics, they are fake.
In all, the 'Two Patricks' are obviously false visionaries.
