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Maureen Sweeny Kyle / 'Holy Love' of Ohio (1990 – to present Day)
(Image: Maureen with Don, her devoted 'driver' whom she had become infatuated with and whom she divorced her husband for-while the visions were taking place.)
STATUS: in accordance with a directive from the Holy See to come to a decision on the matter regarding 'Holy Love' of Ohio - it has been CONDEMNED
BY THE LOCAL BISHOP AS NOT SUPERNATURAL (for offical statement click here)
The visions from 'Holy Love' of Ohio contains HERESIES, FAILED PROPHECIES, and, the ministry is a schismatic ecumencial money-making group that refuses to submit to the authority of the Church. The visions demands acceptance and dependence from believers and threatens those with 'abandonment' by God who don't believe these visions, and other signs of being a fake. True visions are nothing like this.
The visions from 'Holy Love' of Ohio contains HERESIES, FAILED PROPHECIES, and, the ministry is a schismatic ecumencial money-making group that refuses to submit to the authority of the Church. The visions demands acceptance and dependence from believers and threatens those with 'abandonment' by God who don't believe these visions, and other signs of being a fake. True visions are nothing like this.
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Chopped
/ edited messages: Fr. Ralph
Wiatrowsky, Chancellor of the Cleveland Diocese noted the messages
were often chopped, changed and added to by the seer and her husband
and others as well before being released to the public. (Source,
click here)
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Visions
challenging the Church Authority:
Fr. Wiatrowsky also noted that the locutions implied that if the
bishop didn't approve, then 'something was wrong with the bishop'. A
true apparition would never challenge the authority of the Church.
Also, “the
group has never sought local diocesan guidance or deferred to the
bishop in matters of faith.”
(Source,
click here.)
Also,
they declare themselves to be a ECUMENCIAL run group, and therefore
declare they are NOT SUBJECT TO THE AUTHORITY OF THE CATHOLIC CHRUCH.
(Souce,
click here.)
This
is sure sign of a fake visionary.
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Failures
of Very Specific Prophecies-obvious signs of a fake:
Maureen said that Russian President Boris Yeltsin was the literal
Antichrist! Failed. (Visionaries that claim the real Antichrist is
already in the world when we haven't had the Age of Peace yet is an
obvious sign of a fake too.) She also predicted George H. W. Bush would
be re-elected in 1992. Failed. (Source,
click here).
Sweeny
then tried to brush it off, saying 'she didn't understand or
misinterpreted the messages' – but if you read the messages, the
language the visions use seems simple enough, so how could she
'misinterpret it' or 'not understand'? Like a fake mystic, she
tried to cover her tracks. Even the Bible says do not pay attention to prophets whose prophecies don't come to pass - they are fake prophets.
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The
Visions prepare for the Second Coming of Christ after the supposed
'Interior Warning' – but there is no Age of Peace mentioned?
Our
Lady: "Before My Son returns, each soul will be made to know his
state before God. Many await anxiously this hour of enlightenment."
July 10, 1998
So,
what about the other APPROVED prophecies of the Church? God does not
give a prophecy like the Age of Peace and not fulfill it – it would
be making a false promise, and, God does not lie or make false
promises.
Also, Ven. Bernard Maria Clausi warned not to pay attention to any mystic claiming a 'momentary universal plague' never revealed before - which obviously means the 'Illumination of Conscience' warning, apparent sign of a fake mystic - click here for more info.
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The APPARITIONS THEMSELVES ASK FOR MONEY - and the Unapproved Ministry Starts Raking in
lots of Money – usually a sign of self-interest of a fake
visionary that local bishops have to keep an eye out for as sign of a
fake. (See the page on how Church Approval of an Apparition works,click here.)
“It
was during the
Seven Hills fiasco that
the Blessed Mother started making flat-out requests for money and
land. She wanted a
1-900 number and sought major financial backers. "Dear children,
the hour has come when you need to pool your resources just as the
apostles did, all for the greater glory of God," reads a letter
mailed to potential donors. "Search your hearts, find your
assets, and contribute generously." Also, "Jesus has
requested three to five acres with options on surrounding land,"
explained a December 5, 1994, fund-raising
letter. (…)
Declared a tax-exempt religious organization starting in 1996, the
ministry was bringing in about twice as much as it spent. By 1997,
the latest year for which their tax returns are available, Holy Love
was sitting on net assets of $620,899. (…) A donation message
currently posted on Holy Love's website indicates even loftier
financial aspirations. "Commemorative gifts afford the faithful
the opportunity to forever link their own family name with Our Lady's
Prayer Center — or to honor and perpetuate the name of a loved one,
living or deceased," it reads. "Ranging in price from $50
to more than $1
million, these
commemoratives provide the donor an individualized certificate of
recognition and, in some cases, a beautiful plaque of recognition at
[the Holy Love chapel]." (Source,
click here)
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NOTE: according to the Council of Chalcedon (451 AD) - "Religious
and laity who run monasteries, martyrs' shrines or almshouses who do
not obey the local bishop's authority." are commiting an offence that is
EXCOMMUNICABLE. (Subject to Excommunication.)
This is why submitting to the local bishop's authority is one of the key points the Church examines in determining when a visionary is real or not.
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Refusal
to Pay Rightful Bills / Dues / Workers:
After
raking in all that – they refused to pay a landscape contractor –
refusing payment is a huge sin - defrauding workers of their just wages is one of the sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance.
“Slavko
Pavlovic, the owner of a small Cleveland excavating company called
Positive Grounds, has more reason to doubt the group's sincerity. He
finds it difficult to understand why a group bringing in hundreds of
thousands of dollars couldn't fork over the $26,000 it owed him.
Pavlovic and his lawyer, Daniel
Jamieson, had met with Kyle and former Holy Love trustee Richard
Graven in early 1996 to iron out an agreement for a landscaping and
excavating project at the shrine. They drew up a structured contract,
and the Holy Love leaders gave their legally binding consent in front
of attorneys. Kyle said they needed Pavlovic to start on the project
immediately and promised to fax a signed copy of the contract the
next morning.
Pavlovic reluctantly agreed, showing up
with rented machinery and twelve workers the next day. But the signed
contract never arrived.
"My lawyer calls me up [later that
day] and says, "I don't know what's wrong with these people, but
they want to work on a handshake,'" Pavlovic recalls. "I'm
not gonna be working on God's handshake on a quarter-million-dollar
project. I'm too small of a company to absorb a loss like that."
Pavlovic charged Holy Love $26,000 for a
day of labor and equipment fees. They refused to pay it, so his
attorney filed suit. The ministry settled in fall 1998 with a check
for $13,000, signed by out-of-town angel Bill Reynolds, according to
Pavlovic.
"Because they were a
religious group, I figured it would be all right to work with them,"
he says. "But basically, all they were was a bunch of
fund-raisers." (Source,
click here)
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Maureen
was infatuated with a man and his good looks when she was a married
woman! -
Maureen apparently went through epilepsy attacks, (that suddenly disappeared when she got divorced!) but when she was ill, her 'unofficial chauffeur' named Donald Kyle would carry her everywhere. According to this source:
Maureen apparently went through epilepsy attacks, (that suddenly disappeared when she got divorced!) but when she was ill, her 'unofficial chauffeur' named Donald Kyle would carry her everywhere. According to this source:
“Maureen
thought he was very attractive, talked about him all the time,"
says one source. "Don would have to carry her everywhere. She
was infatuated with him — this is a messenger of the Blessed Mother
— and she was married."
Paul,
her husband, ordered her not to have Don around the house but she spent more
and more time with him, eventually she and Paul got divorced, and
pressed Don to marry her! WOW! This from a visionary who sees Our
Lady and who is given the mission to preach about returning to
Catholic TRADITION and following the Commandments?! (Source,
click here.)
This
woman has a Master's degree in Fakeology.
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Her
spiritual director, Fr. Kenney, tells the story that Our Lady Helps
Maureen Sweeny go bargain Fashion hunting for a scarf?!
"Mary
told her where to go to get me a scarf, a green scarf," he
enthuses. But Sweeney-Kyle procrastinated. "Finally, Mary
[re-]appeared and said, "That scarf is buried down in a special
sales group, and if you don't get it now, it'll be gone.'"
(Source,
click here)
Um,
since when is Our Lady who is busy telling us to not become attached
to the world as the 'end is coming' suddenly get officious over
trifles like this?
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FAKE
RELICS – ('Vision' of March 22, 1992) a command to venerate an
ordinary object – the Blessed Virgin tells people to venerate the
piece of carpet on which Maureen stood to see the 'visions'. Calling
it the 'meeting place of Heaven and earth' and that anything touched
to it would be blessed.
If
these visions were real, Our Lady didn't even touch that carpet, only
Maureen stood on it, and as we can already see these visions are
fake, Our Lady certainly didn't touch that carpet or hover over it,
and as Maureen is not even a venerable let alone a saint, this is
venerating an everyday object that is NOT blessed – and, setting up
Maureen as a cult figure.
Then,
Maureen found a strand of hair on her blouse, through it away, but
was told to retrieve it as it was 'Our Lady's hair' and to put it in
a reliquary to be venerated. (Source,
click here)
Sorry,
usually Our Lady would HAND something like that to a seer, which she
has done in the past with saints, and say what it is – she would
not have just dropped it causally and have it risked being thrown
away like that – and, do you really believe some random hair
Maureen found on her blouse was that of Our Lady after all you have
already read above? Seriously? Be careful. Satan loves to have us
venerate non-blessed or ordinary objects that are not sacred, so he
has us unknowingly participate in idol worship.
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Vision date: May 10, 2019 - the vision suggests you give your guardian angel a name -
He (God the Father) says: "Children, you are asking how to be closer to your guardian angel in this life. First, give him a name. Whatever you decide upon, he will respond to. Then, whenever you face any sort of difficulty, call upon him by name."
This goes against Church teaching- we are not to take authority on ourselves and name our angels or seek for their names. When a vision goes against the Church's direction, this is a sure sign of a fake vision. Click here to read the Church's position on angel names.
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Vision date: May 10, 2019 - the vision suggests you give your guardian angel a name -
He (God the Father) says: "Children, you are asking how to be closer to your guardian angel in this life. First, give him a name. Whatever you decide upon, he will respond to. Then, whenever you face any sort of difficulty, call upon him by name."
This goes against Church teaching- we are not to take authority on ourselves and name our angels or seek for their names. When a vision goes against the Church's direction, this is a sure sign of a fake vision. Click here to read the Church's position on angel names.
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Vision
date: July 7, 1993 – threats from the visions?
Jesus
speaking to Maureen – “Those who reject you, reject
Me."
Sorry,
but this type of expected acceptance is for the priests /
missionaries / hierarchy of the Church who have been given the authprity to teach true doctrine, not for a mystic who gives private
revelations. The Church teaches we are NOT REQUIRED to beleive in private relvations. When a vision threatens rejection or punishment for not
believing in it or the visionary, then it's usually fake and a sign of a cult starting around the mystic as we're not
required to believe in private revelation or even the visionaries,
especially if they are not yet approved by the Church. As St.
Bernadette used to say regarding Lourdes, 'I'm only here to inform,
not convince.'
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Vision
date: July 8, 1993 – insults and untruths?!
Our
Lady: “"I know what's on your heart, but I've come
tonight to pray for unbelievers, most especially those who have heard
My messages but choose not to believe. They are not courageous in
their fight against evil. My messages made them uncomfortable and
they are choosing not to leave their old way of life."
Wow.
The Church has declared we are free to believe or not to believe an
apparition, but to say those who doubt if these are true are 'not
courageous' and that we're just sinners that don't want to change?
Not
exactly! What about those who are taking TRUE APPARITIONS to heart
that have warned that false apparitions will come from Hell like
swarms of flies in the latter days and we will have great difficulty
telling the real visions from the fakes? We have the courageous duty
to be wary and question everything with regards to new visions these
days – but to declare those who choose not believe these visions in
Ohio are sinners and these messages make them 'uncomfortable'?
Wrong. That not true for a lot of Catholics who are wary. In fact,
I'd love to be able to spread new messages, but these apparitions are
STILL CONDEMNED BY THE CHURCH and obviously fake, therefore we are
duty-bound to not believe them until the Church decrees otherwise,
(if ever in this case).
Also,
whatever is good and true in these messages has already been revealed
to other mystics, so if I we follow the true mystics, and we'd up doing what is right anyway, so we're not
all exactly going back to sinful ways like this vision claims we are
if we ignore these Ohio messages, are we? So, this is also a message
of slander against dutiful Catholics who are wary. Wow.
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Vision of Jan. 11, 2019 - the Vision says not to pay any attention to other messengers that gives times and dates for parts of the Chastisements -
"Children, My speaking to you daily is certainly a sign of My fast-approaching chastisement. I do not, however, give you times and dates of specific happenings. The reason is clear. I desire that you always be prepared to meet My Son in your final judgment. Your preparation must be obedience to My Commandments, for that is the criteria by which you will be judged."
"Do not listen to any so-called 'messenger' who claims to know when the dates are for certain parts of the coming chastisement"
Wow. this is major - When a vision tells you to beware of 'this' or 'that' other visionary and not to pay attention to them it is in order to create exclusivity to its own messages and is a red flag this is a fake - it's up to the Church to decide what visions to be aware of. When a vision tries to get you to ignore others and attempting trying to create exclusivity and compel you to pay attention to its messages alone and no other - it's a sign of a fake.
Note the message from 'Holy Love' isn't quite true - God may not give specific dates all the time, but true mystics have given specific TIMES - a true vision would not tell us to ignore MARIE-JULIE JAHENNY for instance - or Sr. Royer of the Nativity who gave us some good timing on when to expect parts of the chastisements. Sr. Royer was told the earth does not have a millienium left nor many centuries either, and we're in the last of times left according to her, basically the last century, and, Marie-Julie give some pretty close timing of when the chastisements will start even if she doesn't give the year- June and July in Paris. She also gives a few dates. So, Marueen is certainly off if she is trying to keep us away from true mystics like Marie-Julie Jahenny.
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Vision date Jan 14, 2019 - One cannot 'reason out' the Truths of Faith?
"To the one who tries to reason out the Truths of faith, the Truth will never find him."
This is a HUGE theological error. True, not all truths of faith can be reasoned out by reason alone, there are things that must be accepted on faith, and God does love a child-like simplistic heart, but to make a blanket statement like that - to imply that one cannot use their reason to discover the truths of faith, then St. Thomas Aquinas and all the great Doctors of the Church are in serious trouble! Apparently the Truth never found them if we believed this message.
The Catholic Church has taught that true faith and correct reason can and must work together, and, viewed properly, can never be in conflict with one another, as both have their origin in God, as stated in the Papal encyclical letter issued by Pope John Paul II, Fides et ratio ("[On] Faith and Reason").
This message from 'Holy Love' goes against the teachings of the Church.
Vision of Jan. 11, 2019 - the Vision says not to pay any attention to other messengers that gives times and dates for parts of the Chastisements -
"Children, My speaking to you daily is certainly a sign of My fast-approaching chastisement. I do not, however, give you times and dates of specific happenings. The reason is clear. I desire that you always be prepared to meet My Son in your final judgment. Your preparation must be obedience to My Commandments, for that is the criteria by which you will be judged."
"Do not listen to any so-called 'messenger' who claims to know when the dates are for certain parts of the coming chastisement"
Wow. this is major - When a vision tells you to beware of 'this' or 'that' other visionary and not to pay attention to them it is in order to create exclusivity to its own messages and is a red flag this is a fake - it's up to the Church to decide what visions to be aware of. When a vision tries to get you to ignore others and attempting trying to create exclusivity and compel you to pay attention to its messages alone and no other - it's a sign of a fake.
Note the message from 'Holy Love' isn't quite true - God may not give specific dates all the time, but true mystics have given specific TIMES - a true vision would not tell us to ignore MARIE-JULIE JAHENNY for instance - or Sr. Royer of the Nativity who gave us some good timing on when to expect parts of the chastisements. Sr. Royer was told the earth does not have a millienium left nor many centuries either, and we're in the last of times left according to her, basically the last century, and, Marie-Julie give some pretty close timing of when the chastisements will start even if she doesn't give the year- June and July in Paris. She also gives a few dates. So, Marueen is certainly off if she is trying to keep us away from true mystics like Marie-Julie Jahenny.
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Vision date Jan 14, 2019 - One cannot 'reason out' the Truths of Faith?
"To the one who tries to reason out the Truths of faith, the Truth will never find him."
This is a HUGE theological error. True, not all truths of faith can be reasoned out by reason alone, there are things that must be accepted on faith, and God does love a child-like simplistic heart, but to make a blanket statement like that - to imply that one cannot use their reason to discover the truths of faith, then St. Thomas Aquinas and all the great Doctors of the Church are in serious trouble! Apparently the Truth never found them if we believed this message.
The Catholic Church has taught that true faith and correct reason can and must work together, and, viewed properly, can never be in conflict with one another, as both have their origin in God, as stated in the Papal encyclical letter issued by Pope John Paul II, Fides et ratio ("[On] Faith and Reason").
This message from 'Holy Love' goes against the teachings of the Church.
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Vision of Jan 17, 2019- 'hope for the best' in your leaders, etc, and it will be in the world around you.
"Hope is the test of faith. The stronger faith is in the heart, the stronger hope is. When faith weakens - hope crumbles, as well. These days, you have hope that the domestic turmoil in your country (USA) will end soon. You hope because you trust in your government to do what is right and to support what is best for the most people. You hope in the wisdom of your leaders that they will recognize Truth as opposed to politics as usual. Continue to hope for the best. What you hold in your heart is then in the world around you."
What? This is in completely opposition to God's commandment we place our hope and trust in Him and not to become attached to creatures.
Also, the message is mixing up the heavenly virtues of faith and hope with regards to salvation and mixes it with a human hope for the world. Here God is allegidly saying to continue to 'hope for the best' with regards to our politicians and governments in the US and then it will 'be in the world' - this is in complete contradiction to the other mystics as well - Our Lord told Marie-Julie Jahenny we are not to place our hopes in man to bring about the Age of Peace or the betterment of the world or the Church, but on the contrary, to expect it to grow steadily worse until He rises up to cleanse the earth and put an end to all the corruption by establishing the French King of His choice - it will be through God that we can hope that the Age of Peace will come, but NOT in any plan or government of man.
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Vision Jan. 25, 2019 - Christ Himself does not know when the Second Coming is going to happen!?
God to Maureen- "Do not trust anyone who professes to know the exact hour of His Return. I alone know that. Not even My Son is privy to that information. I will not share it here to you."
True, no human will ever know the exact hour of Christ's return, but the rest is a false interpretation of Mark 13: 32 "But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father"
As we see in the Douay-Rheims footnotes, the Church teaches that Christ as God is indeed FULLY AWARE of this information regardind the Second Coming, but as revealing this information was not given to Him by the Father, it is a secret for God and not for man, it was not expedient to reveal it to us and therefore 'He did now know it':
Explanation from the Doauy-Rheims Bible: "Not that the Son of God is absolutely ignorant of the day of judgment, but that he knoweth it not, as our teacher; that is, he knoweth it not so as to teach it to us, as not being expedient."
In other words, the Church teaches Christ indeed knows the day, but it is not for us to know it and the Father did not want it taught or revealed to it to us- hence His cryptic phrase.
A true vision would not go against what the Church teaches or it is saying the Holy Spirit has not guided the Church.
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Vision date Feb 12, 2019 - a threat of witholding blessings if you test these apparitions - accusations of those who test them are 'arrogant' - the false threat you are testing God if you do:
Blessed Virgin -"The illumination 'of conscience' is given to those who come in humility, not in arrogance, trying to test the reality of these apparitions and Messages. The same will be true of My Special Blessing. It is not right to test God."
A true vision never threatens if you disbelieve, we are not required to believe private revelations, and we are allowed to test unapproved apparitions - as St. John in the Bible says, we are to test all spirits to see where they're coming from - we are EXPECTED TO. And, this message is supposed to come from Our Lady who tested the Angel Gabriel at the Annunciation to see where his messsage was coming from to ensure he was from God: "How can this be when I know not man?". And, waited to see what answer he would give.
Sorry, but testing an apparition is not testing God, it is holy prudence. When a vision attempts to dissuade you from testing it, it is an obvious fake.
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Vision of Jan 17, 2019- 'hope for the best' in your leaders, etc, and it will be in the world around you.
"Hope is the test of faith. The stronger faith is in the heart, the stronger hope is. When faith weakens - hope crumbles, as well. These days, you have hope that the domestic turmoil in your country (USA) will end soon. You hope because you trust in your government to do what is right and to support what is best for the most people. You hope in the wisdom of your leaders that they will recognize Truth as opposed to politics as usual. Continue to hope for the best. What you hold in your heart is then in the world around you."
What? This is in completely opposition to God's commandment we place our hope and trust in Him and not to become attached to creatures.
Also, the message is mixing up the heavenly virtues of faith and hope with regards to salvation and mixes it with a human hope for the world. Here God is allegidly saying to continue to 'hope for the best' with regards to our politicians and governments in the US and then it will 'be in the world' - this is in complete contradiction to the other mystics as well - Our Lord told Marie-Julie Jahenny we are not to place our hopes in man to bring about the Age of Peace or the betterment of the world or the Church, but on the contrary, to expect it to grow steadily worse until He rises up to cleanse the earth and put an end to all the corruption by establishing the French King of His choice - it will be through God that we can hope that the Age of Peace will come, but NOT in any plan or government of man.
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Vision Jan. 25, 2019 - Christ Himself does not know when the Second Coming is going to happen!?
God to Maureen- "Do not trust anyone who professes to know the exact hour of His Return. I alone know that. Not even My Son is privy to that information. I will not share it here to you."
True, no human will ever know the exact hour of Christ's return, but the rest is a false interpretation of Mark 13: 32 "But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father"
As we see in the Douay-Rheims footnotes, the Church teaches that Christ as God is indeed FULLY AWARE of this information regardind the Second Coming, but as revealing this information was not given to Him by the Father, it is a secret for God and not for man, it was not expedient to reveal it to us and therefore 'He did now know it':
Explanation from the Doauy-Rheims Bible: "Not that the Son of God is absolutely ignorant of the day of judgment, but that he knoweth it not, as our teacher; that is, he knoweth it not so as to teach it to us, as not being expedient."
In other words, the Church teaches Christ indeed knows the day, but it is not for us to know it and the Father did not want it taught or revealed to it to us- hence His cryptic phrase.
A true vision would not go against what the Church teaches or it is saying the Holy Spirit has not guided the Church.
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Vision date Feb 12, 2019 - a threat of witholding blessings if you test these apparitions - accusations of those who test them are 'arrogant' - the false threat you are testing God if you do:
Blessed Virgin -"The illumination 'of conscience' is given to those who come in humility, not in arrogance, trying to test the reality of these apparitions and Messages. The same will be true of My Special Blessing. It is not right to test God."
A true vision never threatens if you disbelieve, we are not required to believe private revelations, and we are allowed to test unapproved apparitions - as St. John in the Bible says, we are to test all spirits to see where they're coming from - we are EXPECTED TO. And, this message is supposed to come from Our Lady who tested the Angel Gabriel at the Annunciation to see where his messsage was coming from to ensure he was from God: "How can this be when I know not man?". And, waited to see what answer he would give.
Sorry, but testing an apparition is not testing God, it is holy prudence. When a vision attempts to dissuade you from testing it, it is an obvious fake.
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Vision
date: Feb. 8, 2020 God the Father 'praying' or 'begging' our free
will?
God the
Father: “I cannot inspire a soul who listens only to himself. I do
pray for free will to listen to the inspirations of the Holy Spirit."
A
theologian might have to get in on this one and explain how the Holy
Trinity spiritually interacts with the soul and free will as I'm just
a layperson, but personally I find it very strange God the FATHER
using the term 'pray' in this manner. Can God the Father 'pray' to
'free will'?
First of all, free will is just that, 'free' and God
does not force or cajole free will – if the Holy Spirit is already
sending inspirations, then isn't that already grace being sent to
that soul, the Holy Spirit acting in union with the will of the
Father? As far as I know, God won't force 'free will' beyond that,
so can He actually 'pray' or 'beg' for free will in a human to
listen? Personally, I can't help but say something seems 'off'
here.
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Vision
date Feb. 10, 2020: “Holy Love is the
embrace of all My Commandments. Therefore, you
have no excuse to doubt or to disbelieve.
Celebrate the Truth with Me by living these Messages which are all
Truth."
Note
the visions apparently demands belief of the 'Messages'–it
is true that to love God is to embrace His Commandments which is what
we are required to believe, but look at how the message is twisted
with the 'Holy Love Ministry' of the visionary - since Holy Love
Ministries speaks of the Commandments then 'there is no excuse to
doubt or disbelieve these messages'. Sorry, but we may indeed
freely doubt or disbelieve a private revelation - true visions never
demand or say there is no excuse that we believe them as we
are not required to believe private revelations for salvation.
Heaven will not go against what the Church declares is necessary for
salvation, and also and Heaven still does not take away an act of
faith with regards to private messages. Demanding belief is
usually the mark of a fake vision.
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Feb
11, 2020
Our Lady of
Lourdes: "I am unhappy with those who openly oppose My efforts
here. You will be asked for an accounting of your motives and shown
the many souls who could have benefited by the acceptance of this
Mission."
Our
Lady threatens judgement on those who oppose the mission?
Wow. If it is not approved by the Church then we may safely oppose
it. Heaven is only upset when
an approved apparition like La Salette is thwarted or hindered, but
also gives the Church the authority to approve or not to approve,
and, we are expected to be obedient to the Church. So, if the Church
makes a negative decision on an apparition, we have the DUTY under
the virtue of obedience to uphold the Church's decision and warn
others of it until that decision is overturned, if ever in this case.
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Vision -April 7, 2019 - directs souls must be dependant on the messages given at Ohio - tries to tell followers not to place their hearts first and foremost on 'acceptance and approvals' - tries to say this is following are 'false gods'. Meaning, a sly instruction not to pay attention to the approvals or disapprovals of the Church.
"I come for all people and all nations - this generation and future generations who, once enlightened, will hear and recognize My Voice. Once the soul accepts and believes that I am speaking here, his whole life will change. I desire souls be dependent upon My direction here, as these Message embrace My Commandments. Do not place first in your hearts earthly acceptance or approvals. These can be false gods as well. Rather, pay attention to that which I come to you to say. Love Me so much that you desire to obey My Commandments."
SIGN OF FAKE - a true vision CANNOT demand our spiritual dependance on it or with a particular apparition site in order for our life to change! That's false obedience. We're not required to believe private revelations, God His Son, and His CHURCH is where we place our spiritual dependence - and the Church can approve or not approve an apparition.
But look how craftily this vision states right after we are to depend on the vision that we are not to place our hearts on 'earthly acceptance or approvals' - this slyly implies this includes Church approval as well, and, therefore to follow the Church regarding approvals of an apprition is to succumb to a 'false god'? We're told 'don't pay attention to them, pay attention rather to what I tell you here'.
The visions demands spiritual dependance on it, then directs not to listen to the approvals and unapproval of the Church? Sign of a schismatic cult. If this isn't a red flag the vision is a fake, I don't know what is.
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Vision June 2, 2019 - A threat from God he will abandon those who abandon the messsages from the Maranatha Shrine in Ohio -
"I come to you in the form of these Messages to be accepted as your Heavenly Father. As the Messages are an extension of My Grace, it does not bode well for those who summarily reject them."
"It follows that those who reject My Grace here** (i.e the shrine in Ohio) will find themselves more and more on their own -"
Again, according to the Church, we are not required to believe private revelation, but apparently God will abandon you to yourself in this case if you do! When a vision threatens you if you disbelieve it, particularly with the threat of abandonment, then it is usually a fake and possibly outright demonic.
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Vision -April 7, 2019 - directs souls must be dependant on the messages given at Ohio - tries to tell followers not to place their hearts first and foremost on 'acceptance and approvals' - tries to say this is following are 'false gods'. Meaning, a sly instruction not to pay attention to the approvals or disapprovals of the Church.
"I come for all people and all nations - this generation and future generations who, once enlightened, will hear and recognize My Voice. Once the soul accepts and believes that I am speaking here, his whole life will change. I desire souls be dependent upon My direction here, as these Message embrace My Commandments. Do not place first in your hearts earthly acceptance or approvals. These can be false gods as well. Rather, pay attention to that which I come to you to say. Love Me so much that you desire to obey My Commandments."
SIGN OF FAKE - a true vision CANNOT demand our spiritual dependance on it or with a particular apparition site in order for our life to change! That's false obedience. We're not required to believe private revelations, God His Son, and His CHURCH is where we place our spiritual dependence - and the Church can approve or not approve an apparition.
But look how craftily this vision states right after we are to depend on the vision that we are not to place our hearts on 'earthly acceptance or approvals' - this slyly implies this includes Church approval as well, and, therefore to follow the Church regarding approvals of an apprition is to succumb to a 'false god'? We're told 'don't pay attention to them, pay attention rather to what I tell you here'.
The visions demands spiritual dependance on it, then directs not to listen to the approvals and unapproval of the Church? Sign of a schismatic cult. If this isn't a red flag the vision is a fake, I don't know what is.
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Vision June 2, 2019 - A threat from God he will abandon those who abandon the messsages from the Maranatha Shrine in Ohio -
"I come to you in the form of these Messages to be accepted as your Heavenly Father. As the Messages are an extension of My Grace, it does not bode well for those who summarily reject them."
"It follows that those who reject My Grace here** (i.e the shrine in Ohio) will find themselves more and more on their own -"
Again, according to the Church, we are not required to believe private revelation, but apparently God will abandon you to yourself in this case if you do! When a vision threatens you if you disbelieve it, particularly with the threat of abandonment, then it is usually a fake and possibly outright demonic.
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Ronald
L Conte Jr. On “Catholic Planet” also shows the HERETICAL
TEACHINGS regarding the path to holiness which contradicts Church
teaching -I'm simply going to share his words below:
Absurd
Teaching about the Hearts of God
The messages presents what are called the "six chambers" of the united hearts of "the Holy Trinity, Father, Son, Holy Spirit and Immaculate Mary" as a path to holiness. This figure of a six-chambered heart is absurd, since one heart has four chambers, there is no explanation offered as to why the figure has six chambers. The Catholic Faith often speaks to the faithful about the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary. However, it is not traditional, nor is it theologically coherent, to claim that the Trinity has a heart, and that the Father has a heart, and that the Holy Spirit has a heart. Jesus has a Sacred Heart, which refers to His human heart united to the Divine Nature; thus, it is a heart and it is sacred.
The messages presents what are called the "six chambers" of the united hearts of "the Holy Trinity, Father, Son, Holy Spirit and Immaculate Mary" as a path to holiness. This figure of a six-chambered heart is absurd, since one heart has four chambers, there is no explanation offered as to why the figure has six chambers. The Catholic Faith often speaks to the faithful about the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary. However, it is not traditional, nor is it theologically coherent, to claim that the Trinity has a heart, and that the Father has a heart, and that the Holy Spirit has a heart. Jesus has a Sacred Heart, which refers to His human heart united to the Divine Nature; thus, it is a heart and it is sacred.
Jesus knew and loved us each and all during
his life…. He has loved us all with a human heart. For this reason,
the Sacred Heart of Jesus, pierced by our sins and for our salvation,
'is quite rightly considered the chief sign and symbol of that. . .
love with which the divine Redeemer continually loves the eternal
Father and all human beings' without exception. (Catechism, n. 478;
inner quote from Pius XII, Haurietis Aquas).
Notice that the Catechism teaches that the Sacred
Heart is based on the Incarnation; Jesus had a human heart due to His
having united His human nature to His Divine Nature. But the Father
and Spirit are not Incarnate and have no human heart. Therefore, it
is false and theologically absurd to talk about the united hearts of
"the Holy Trinity, Father, Son, Holy Spirit and Immaculate
Mary."
I. False teachings about the path to holiness
The alleged spiritual meaning of the 'six chambers of the united hearts' is that of a description of the path to holiness.
I. False teachings about the path to holiness
The alleged spiritual meaning of the 'six chambers of the united hearts' is that of a description of the path to holiness.
"Here is the way of salvation,
holiness, perfection, and sanctity, simply
put."
http://www.holylove.org/way_to_heaven.php
But this 'way of salvation' as described in these
messages contains numerous assertions not found at all in Tradition,
Scripture, or the teachings of the Magisterium. In effect, this set
of messages is claiming to present a teaching that is necessary to
salvation, that is in fact the only path of salvation, and yet which
is not found at all in the teaching of the Church. Again, note that:
"The Christian faith cannot accept 'revelations' that claim to
surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the
fulfillment…." (Catechism, n. 67). Moreover, this 'way of
salvation' contains serious theological errors and absurdities, and
is not at all in conformity to Catholic teaching throughout the ages
on the true path to holiness.
The First Chamber or first step in this 'way of salvation' is said to be Salvation. This is theologically absurd; there are said to be six steps in the way of salvation (represented as a six-chamber heart), but the first step is salvation itself. This salvation is said to occur with 'surrender to Holy Love.' Now 'Holy Love' is variously described in these messages; sometimes it is said to be merely the commandments to love God and neighbor. But a closer reading of numerous messages reveals that the term 'Holy Love' is inextricably bound to this one claimed private revelation. It is disingenuously claimed, concerning the 'first chamber' that it is merely love of God and neighbor, since these messages consistently present the messages themselves as essential to salvation, to the plan of God, and even to the Return of Jesus Christ.
In the description of the first chamber, which is said to be Salvation, there is no mention of the Church or the Sacraments, no mention of Tradition, Scripture, Magisterium. Nor is there any such mention in any of the six alleged steps to salvation. Even salvation itself is described as depending on this one particular claimed private revelation.
The Second Chamber or step is said to be holiness, which is vaguely described as merely a greater surrender to Holy Love. So the first step is said to be surrender to Holy Love, and the second step is a greater surrender to Holy Love. But no reader of these messages could fail to notice that the term Holy Love is also used to refer to this claimed private revelation, and to the headquarters which promotes the same. These six steps are not the 'way of salvation,' but rather a way to promote a claimed private revelation.
The Third Chamber or step is said to be Perfection, which is described in this way:
The First Chamber or first step in this 'way of salvation' is said to be Salvation. This is theologically absurd; there are said to be six steps in the way of salvation (represented as a six-chamber heart), but the first step is salvation itself. This salvation is said to occur with 'surrender to Holy Love.' Now 'Holy Love' is variously described in these messages; sometimes it is said to be merely the commandments to love God and neighbor. But a closer reading of numerous messages reveals that the term 'Holy Love' is inextricably bound to this one claimed private revelation. It is disingenuously claimed, concerning the 'first chamber' that it is merely love of God and neighbor, since these messages consistently present the messages themselves as essential to salvation, to the plan of God, and even to the Return of Jesus Christ.
In the description of the first chamber, which is said to be Salvation, there is no mention of the Church or the Sacraments, no mention of Tradition, Scripture, Magisterium. Nor is there any such mention in any of the six alleged steps to salvation. Even salvation itself is described as depending on this one particular claimed private revelation.
The Second Chamber or step is said to be holiness, which is vaguely described as merely a greater surrender to Holy Love. So the first step is said to be surrender to Holy Love, and the second step is a greater surrender to Holy Love. But no reader of these messages could fail to notice that the term Holy Love is also used to refer to this claimed private revelation, and to the headquarters which promotes the same. These six steps are not the 'way of salvation,' but rather a way to promote a claimed private revelation.
The Third Chamber or step is said to be Perfection, which is described in this way:
"The soul, now rooted in Holy and
Divine Love, puts all his effort into being perfected in the virtues.
He practices the virtues diligently, prays for them in his soul, and
when God sees a worthy effort, He infuses the soul with these
virtues."
http://www.holylove.org/way_to_heaven.php
Notice that perfection is said to be based, first on
one's own efforts, and that God gives grace and virtue only in
response to the soul's efforts. This contradicts Catholic teaching
that grace is before, during, and after every good act. Furthermore,
it is absurdly claimed that God 'infuses the soul' with the virtues
AFTER the soul has achieved the first two steps, salvation and
holiness, and AFTER the soul has 'put all his efforts' into
practicing the virtues diligently. This contradicts Catholic teaching
that the theological virtues are infused at Baptism. It is also
patently absurd to claim that one receives the virtues AFTER
achieving salvation AND holiness. How is it that one can be saved and
be holy, and yet not have received the virtues?
The Fourth Chamber or step is said to be Sanctification. This claim contradicts the claim that salvation, holiness, and perfection are achieved in the prior steps. It is theological nonsense to claim that one needs sanctification after receiving salvation, holiness, and perfection. In this step, the devotee is cautioned that "There are still two entities: the soul who continually seeks conformity and is successful in this; and the Divine Will of God."
The Fifth Chamber or step is said to be 'Union with the Divine Will.'
The Fourth Chamber or step is said to be Sanctification. This claim contradicts the claim that salvation, holiness, and perfection are achieved in the prior steps. It is theological nonsense to claim that one needs sanctification after receiving salvation, holiness, and perfection. In this step, the devotee is cautioned that "There are still two entities: the soul who continually seeks conformity and is successful in this; and the Divine Will of God."
The Fifth Chamber or step is said to be 'Union with the Divine Will.'
"Few reach this inner sanctum of Our
Lord's Heart. There is now only one entity. Self is no longer
present. The soul is one with God and His Divine Will. This is the
New Jerusalem. (St. Anthony / May 20,
2000)"
http://www.holylove.org/way_to_heaven.php
Few devotees reach this level of absurdity. We
are now supposedly two steps beyond perfection. The soul is said to
be literally one with God; the self is said to literally no longer be
present. And yet there is one more step. The devil must be thoroughly
amused that so many persons who call themselves Christian would
ascribe to a false doctrine that is so thoroughly absurd.Certainly, the claim that the way of salvation leads to a point where a human person is literally one with God and no longer exists as a separate 'entity' is not only absurd, but abject heresy. Likewise, the claim that 'this is the New Jerusalem' is also absurd.
The Sixth Chamber or step is said to be 'Immersion in the Divine Will.' This is said to be achieved by some persons 'in this life,' and yet it is also said that such persons have 'reached the highest Heaven.' It is further claimed that even some of the Saints and martyrs do not reach this level until after they have died and gone to Heaven.
We are now several steps beyond the absurd. In the previous step, it was claimed that the soul ceases to be a separate entity; yet now it is claimed that the same soul is immersed in the Divine Will. Such contradictions are present throughout this set of six chambers or steps.
Finally, the reader should note that, throughout all six steps in the way of salvation, nothing at all is said about Tradition, Scripture, or the teaching of the Magisterium, nothing about the Church, nothing about the Sacraments. The entire way of salvation is described as if it were based entirely on this one particular claimed private revelation.” (Source, click here)
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So, as the visions of Maureen Sweeny Kyle are
obviously heretical, fake, and she runs a money-making schismatic ecumenical group
that refuses to follow the authority of the Church and tells followers not to submit to the Church's decisions either– her messages
are not on the Timeline.
