!? Edson Glauber,
Itapiranga Brazil (1994 to present day)
STATUS: CURRENTLY NEGATIVE
/ NOT SUPERNATURAL by declaration from the Congregation for the
Doctrine of the Faith as of 2017.
In 1994, a man named Edson
Glauber de Souza claimed to receive visions and messages from Heaven
at Itapiranga Brazil. The apparition site began attracting pilgrims, however, the first bishop
Bishop Jorge Eduardo Marskell, S.F.M. of Itacoatiara (1975-1998), remained at a distance from the reported healings and alleged other spiritual fruits, and apparently was also unfavorable to the apparitions, according to Mons. Rene Laurentin (Dictionary of the Apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary p. 950).
Later, his successor in January 21, 2010 Bishop Carillo Gritti of Itacoatiara was more favorable towards the apparitions and in declared in January 21, 2010 a 'decree of worship' permitting the celebration of the sacraments on the site and that he would establish a theological Commission to investigate the visions. In May 4, 2010, he declared: “With the effect of a Theological Commission instituted by me, we are appreciating the probable supernatural nature of the events and messages.”
Bishop Jorge Eduardo Marskell, S.F.M. of Itacoatiara (1975-1998), remained at a distance from the reported healings and alleged other spiritual fruits, and apparently was also unfavorable to the apparitions, according to Mons. Rene Laurentin (Dictionary of the Apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary p. 950).
Later, his successor in January 21, 2010 Bishop Carillo Gritti of Itacoatiara was more favorable towards the apparitions and in declared in January 21, 2010 a 'decree of worship' permitting the celebration of the sacraments on the site and that he would establish a theological Commission to investigate the visions. In May 4, 2010, he declared: “With the effect of a Theological Commission instituted by me, we are appreciating the probable supernatural nature of the events and messages.”
HOWEVER, NOTE: the first
declaration was 'probable supernatural' – meaning no firm decision
was made if they were supernatural, only 'probable'. Therefore, this
was only a tacit, but NOT full approval of the mystic and the
messages by Bishop Gritti. Notice it appears the Commission had not made its final
verdict yet as they were still 'appreciating' the messages, which
suggests their examination was still underway and was not yet completed.
The first move by
Bishop Gritti seemed favourable, however, allowing celebration of the Mass on a site is still not full formal approval of an apparition.
The Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith has now issued formal official warning and does NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE AUTHENTICY OF THE SUPPOSED APPARITIONS AND CONSEQUENTLY OF THE MESSAGES
The Apostolic See has the right to overturn a local Ordinary's decision.
The Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith has now issued formal official warning and does NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE AUTHENTICY OF THE SUPPOSED APPARITIONS AND CONSEQUENTLY OF THE MESSAGES
The Apostolic See has the right to overturn a local Ordinary's decision.
In February 2017 the
Congregation issued an internal letter warning the diocese of the
messages and that there were not to be spread any longer. Also, no
celebrations were to be carried out on the site, and also asked
Glauber to not spread the messages.
This is the currently the
Official Statement from the Archdiocese of Manaus:
“With
a letter dated February 7, 2017, the Congregation for the Doctrine of
Faith DOES NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE SUPPOSED
APPARITIONS AND, CONSEQUENTLY, OF THE MESSAGES.
There should be no mention in the divine worship celebrated in the shrine dedicated to Our Lady Queen of the Rosary and Peace of Itapiranga, or elsewhere in the Prelature, about the alleged apparitions and messages that Mr. Edson Glauber would be receiving;
Mr. Edson Glauber and the Association of the Queen of the Rosary and of the Peace of Itapiranga (ARRPI), are to ABSTAIN from further disclosing these supposed messages;
Regarding the letter of approval that Monsignor Carillo Gritti gave to Mr. Edson Glauber de Souza, on the alleged apparitions, Bishop Carillo's successor will take all appropriate decisions.”
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I have not personally
studied many of the messages yet to see what may have been the problem the Congregation noticed – but I see several odd
things in the few messages I have stumbled across that are definite Red Flags:
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Glauber and his official site is still spreading the Messages - DISOBEDIENCE to the Holy See and the Local Ordinary. Disobedience is never a good sign. It is one of the tests the Church checks when evaluating the authenticity of a mystic. When a mystic disobeys the Church, especially the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, sure sign of a fake.
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Glauber and his official site is still spreading the Messages - DISOBEDIENCE to the Holy See and the Local Ordinary. Disobedience is never a good sign. It is one of the tests the Church checks when evaluating the authenticity of a mystic. When a mystic disobeys the Church, especially the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, sure sign of a fake.
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A miracle sign that
will not convert or save people?
Our Lady gives the
promise that she will leave the sign of a visible miracle, but by
then it will be too late for those who have disbelieved the messages
at Itapiranga and have not converted, and they will 'not be saved,' which is
contradictory – why give a sign of her coming if it would be too
late to save anyone by it? Heaven does not give useless signs or miracles. One of the main points of a miracle other than the occurance giving glory to God is it is allowed to happen for CONVERSION OF SINNERS!
The Church teahes salvation can happen if a person makes an act of total perfect contrition, and this
message goes against that.
Our Lady: “Beloved
son, I wish to tell you this afternoon and to tell all my children
the importance to live the messages. For those who do not believe, I
wish to tell them that one day, where this Cross is, I will give a
visible sign, and all will believe in my maternal presence here at
Itapiranga, but it will be too late for those who have not converted.
The conversion has to be now! In all the places where I have already
appeared and continue to appear, I always confirm my apparitions so
that there will be no doubts, and here in Itapiranga, my Heavenly
manifestations will be confirmed. This will happen when my
apparitions here at Itapiranga will end. All will see the sign given
in this Cross; they will repent of not having listened to me, for
having laughed at my messages and at my messengers, but
it will be too late because they will have dissipated my graces. They
will have lost the occasion to be saved. Pray, pray,
pray!”
This goes against the
whole reason for Our Lady to give a visible sign – at real
apparition sites she gives a sign so people may believe, be converted
and saved by returning to the Church.
Why give a sign the visions are 'true' if it won't save the hard hearted and convince them of the apparitions so they may convert and be saved in time?
Why give a sign the visions are 'true' if it won't save the hard hearted and convince them of the apparitions so they may convert and be saved in time?
Also, as mentioned, this
goes against the possibility of salvation with a final act of Perfect
Contrition – would God or Our Lady, the Mother of Mercy, refuse
such a grace at that time simply because people didn't believe that
particular set of apparitions?
Remember, the Church teaches we are NOT required to
believe in an apparition or private revelation to be saved, but the vision of Itapiranga is going against the Church in this regard and is saying that those who do not believe these particular
visions at Itapiranga will have lost the grace to be saved when and if that sign
appears.
The vision is demanding exclusive belief in order to be saved, which is a serious red flag - we are not required to believe in a private revelation to be saved, but the vision is saying otherwise, which contradicts the Church.
We have a red flag here with this vision that something is not right.
We have a red flag here with this vision that something is not right.
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Red Flag: Another example of the Vision
Demanding Belief – Declares only those who believes in the Itapiranga
Apparitions will survive the Chastisements and see the Renewal of the
Earth / Age of Peace - This is NOT true
Our
Lady ( Dec. 8, 2015): “Itapiranga
is for those who believe and receive my messages with
the heart of a child and who are humble before me, their Blessed
Mother, as the Lord desires, in order to make me queen in the midst
of my children who resort to my intercession and maternal protection.
The proud and unbelieving will never remain in
this work,
because only those
who believe in my motherly words,
never doubting, will
remain standing until the end, when the world will be renewed by my
Son, by the breath of the Holy Spirit.”
We
see 'in this work' and by reference to Itapiranga the visions are
specifically referring to belief in them only.
Glauber
then basically says God will make us account for the graces we lose
for not following or believing / or acting upon the messages of
Itapiranga: “Our Lady looked at me maternally and in her gaze I
realized how much she wants her children to understand the importance
of her presence in that place, but to date, many do not realize it,
and one day, God
will call each person to account for the graces of which they have
not made good use
for their conversion and sanctification.” (Glauber)
Red
Flag.
The
Church has taught we do not need to believe in private revelations to
be saved, and, to say that only those who believe in the messages of Itapiranga will
see the renewal of the earth aka the Age of Peace is certainly a red
flag – we have had many other mystics and apparitions say the same
warning messages as these messages to Glauber, but even if we follow
the other approved mystics on prayer, spiritual conversion and how to
prepare, but do not believe in Glauber's messages, nobody will see
the renewal / age of Age of Peace?
This is false.
This is false.
When
a vision demands belief in its messages 'alone' to this extent
something is obviously wrong as it is creating a 'cult of exclusivity' and is usually a major sign there is something demonic or human at work. True visions always follow the universal nature of the Church, and do not impose 'exclusive conditions' that cut out all other Church-approved visions.
Also,
as mentioned, the Church declares we are free to COMPLETELY
DISBELIEVE in a private apparitions, EVEN IF APPROVED BY THE CHURCH, and a true visions always acts in accordance with the teachings of the Church. So for a vision to turn on those who doubt or disbelieve and to label
them as 'proud' is rather uncharitable, and Heaven is never
uncharitable.
And,
this is dangerous as it can turn followers of a mystic against those
who simply don't believe, causing more uncharitable actions.
More
dangerous yet, if the Church declares the visions 'not supernatural'
(which has just happened), and orders the faithful not to spread the
messages, people will say this is from the 'corrupt proud clergy'
using this message as an pretext to ignore the Church's ruling, so,
the fake vision has succeeded in making people disobedient against
the Church.
Sadly,
this is already happening – people are now disobedient and continue to spread the messages
knowing the Church's current order of 'Not Supernatural' regarding
Edson Glauber's visions.
Major
red flags here. A true vision would never issue a message that could / would circumvent an official ruling from the Church - a real vision would never need to in any case! But a fake vision would in order to secure loyalty against an official ruling of 'Not Supernatural' by the Church.
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Another red flag: a
statement that men can become 'divinized':
Our
Lady: (May 6, 2020) “He who does not believe will be condemned”,
are the words that my Divine Son said to all those who refused to
accept His
extraordinary and His holy teachings that divinize men.”
We
are not divine but human, we cannot be 'made divine'. We are made in
the image and likeness of God, yes, but we are not divine, nor can we
be made divine. Become holy and sanctified yes, and will eventually
have a glorified resurrected body on the Last Day if we are saved,
but we cannot become divine.
If
sanctification was meant, why not use that term?
Also,
a theologian might have to get on this to confirm, but it is God's
santifying grace that will sanctify us and eventually to eternal
salvation in glory if we follow the teachings of Our Lord, we have to
live and do them to be in God's sanctifying grace, but then we are
not 'divinized'.
Again,
bad or theologically unsound terminology - another indication something is not quite right.
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MAJOR RED FLAG – PROTESTANT IDEA OF THE RAPTURE-
'Exclusive' Promise to the Itapiranga Devotees - Our Lady Will Grant
a 'Rapture' type Grace to those who Believe her messages
Our Lady: (May 2, 2020)
“The Lord will grant a grace to all those who have prepared
themselves worthily and never doubted My Motherly presence, but have
welcomed and lived My messages with love. At My request, before His
Throne, before the great chastisement will take place in the
world, many of My devout children will be removed from this world
and will be transformed in the blink of an eye and will be united
with Him forever in His kingdom of love and glory.”
We know from the wording
'transformed' and 'in a 'blink of an eye', which is a nod to the words,
'changed' and 'twinkling of an eye', that the vision is actually referring
to the passage of St. Paul regarding the resurrection and the
transformation of the bodies of the saved at the Last Day and General
Judgement: “In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last
trumpet: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall rise again
incorruptible: and we shall be changed.” (1 Cor. 15:15)
But here, it is obvious by
using a paraphrase of the words of St. Paul the vision is not simply
referring to 'removing' souls by death alone, but also saying Our
Lady has secured the exclusive grace for those who believed her
messages from Itapiranga and lived them and never doubted will be taken to Heaven body
and soul before the chastisements, aka before the Last Day.
This is heresy as Our Lord
will not grant anyone else, besides Our Lady herself who was
completely sinless and worthy of the grace, to go to Heaven body and
soul before the General Judgement. Even Enoch and Elias are not in Heaven, they are on the outskirts according to Bl Catherine Emmerick.
This message from Itapiranga is spreading a variant of the 'Rapture' nonsense touted by the Protestants who believe several of the 'chosen' will be caught up into Heaven body and soul and spared the chastisements at the end of the world.
This message from Itapiranga is spreading a variant of the 'Rapture' nonsense touted by the Protestants who believe several of the 'chosen' will be caught up into Heaven body and soul and spared the chastisements at the end of the world.
This message is also
spreading 'exclusivity alone' regarding belief in the Itapiranga visions once more, which is
another sign something is wrong.
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If the Congregation of
the Faith has ruled the visions as something not credible and does not recognise them as authentic, and has ordered
the faithful not to spread the messages, we are required to be
obedient until the decision is reversed, if ever.
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